[coreboot] SELF/ELF/LAR

Segher Boessenkool segher at kernel.crashing.org
Tue Apr 15 02:51:32 CEST 2008

>> you know, I am realizing: we can debate this for the next 10 years.
>> How about a Code Contest? People develop code and take it all the way
>> into qemu, we beat on each other's ideas, and the best code wins. We
>> can argue forever. Why don't we just put the code out there and see
>> which one works best?
> Unfortunately, that would mean that half the work would be wasted.
> Code is never great on the first try, and we could spend months
> tweaking our respective implementations just to see them fly out the
> window.

Code isn't interesting anyway; design / architecture is the problem

> We are all professionals - we can come to a consensus.  Right now,
> we're trying to figure out if we can make ELF perform the way we need
> it to perform.  If we can be satisfied that it can, then we move on.
> If we cannot be satisfied, then the core team will have to make a
> decision to move on to another alternative, and then we can debate the
> details of SELF or something similar.

I agree.

So, what exactly *do* we need here, and *why*?

> But I think we can afford a week or
> two to let this all go back and forth - we don't need to get v3 out the
> door next week.
> These are critical ideas, and broad consensus is important.  And I 
> think
> we are on the right track.

Nice to hear :-)


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