[coreboot] [Fwd: Re: Contact Intel]

Marc Karasek Marc.Karasek at Sun.COM
Fri May 9 16:50:21 CEST 2008

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Marc Karasek
Sun Microsystems
mailto:marc.karasek at sun.com

Marc Karasek wrote:
> All,
> To help move us forward.
> Some of you know that I am looking at coreboot as the *first choice* 
> for a project I am working on here at Sun.  There are still a lot of 
> details to be worked out,  but the more information I gather, the 
> better things are looking.  What I need to do is get a stable 
> environment up and running on SimNOW.  The GPLing of the AGESA code 
> and how this all fits into Coreboot is also a major item.
> I am working on the SimNOW issue, trying to get LAB working first, but 
> would need to show multiple (LAB,  gPXE, etc.) running on SimNOW.  
> This would greatly help my case within Sun.  The target for this is to 
> be able to boot over the network/fabric.  Local storage/boot media 
> needs to be limited to flash.
> Marc
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> Stefan Reinauer wrote:
>> Dear Richard,
>> I honestly want to apologize if you understood my (undoubtably scathing)
>> remark as an accuse of racism. This was by no means my intention (and
>> would undoubtedly be absurd, as you reckoned).
>> Instead my point was that following the boycott of a political,
>> religious or societal leading figure under the semblance of idealism can
>> indeed have undesirable results.
>> In the case that I mentioned, the results were not as fatal for us, but
>> still a further obstacle to cope with.
>> I might be indicted for judging people by the results of their actions
>> rather than their intent, and probably also being snappy about this.
>> Nonetheless, I believe we do have the same goals, namely getting as many
>> vendors to support coreboot. Now, however, I don't think a boycott, or
>> keeping a vendors marketing support guys busy will have the effect that
>> we desire. People stop listening to you, if they feel accused -- I fear
>> I proved that point almost too clearly. In fact, this mailing list has a
>> very long history of side blows against certain less-than-desired
>> cooperative vendors, and I am inclined to say that it got us nowhere.
>> My suggestion is that we try to work with these guys, and find the right
>> people inside the vendors and convince them that helping coreboot can
>> only be a corporate advantage for them. I _know_ there is quite a
>> reasonable number of such people in any of the corporations we're
>> facing, including both Intel and NVidia. These are huge corporations,
>> and finding the right people and building up a reliable and
>> complementary relationship between them and our community is a challenge
>> that can take years of work.
>> Again, please accept my apologies for the misunderstandings I seem to
>> have caused. I really appreciate your efforts in our project. Now let's
>> figure out how we can make our goals actually become reality.
>> Best regards,
>>    Stefan

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