[coreboot] [GSoC] Coreboot Spice Payload
Peter Stuge
peter at stuge.se
Sun Mar 27 03:31:31 CEST 2011
xdrudis wrote:
> > 3. Coreboot Spice Payload
>
> Do you mean some kind of SerialICE?
No..
> > CSPLD will rely on libpayload drivers for keyboard, serial and video.
>
> Which drivers ? Are there drivers for video in libpayload ?
Yes.
> For which VGAs ?
GeodeLX and VGA AFAIR.
> I think there's going to be a similar effort as to that of building
> an OS and its drivers if you don't want to load an OS on the client.
It depends on what SPICE requires. I haven't looked though, so I
don't know. I think it's a very interesting idea, but also that more
research is needed to determine that the project will not explode in
the face.
> My understanding is that coreboot/payloads only initialize the CPU,
> chipset, memory, buses
This is what coreboot does.
> and the minimum devices they need for debug and loading and OS.
A payload would do this.
> It is the OS who recognizes the different possible mouses, vgas,
> network cards, etc., the OS loads the appropiate drivers
Yes, but if SPICE is not a beast, the driver requirements would be
fairly moderate. However it might also be best to go for an existing
kernel. Maybe QNX. Maybe leverage Cristi's work from previous GSoC
with Linux+uClibc.
> Let's suppose the user want to move a window and the processing
> that calculates the next image (which other windows parts are shown
> or hidden, any animation, etc.) is done in a remote computer.
Right, except that since SPICE is optimized for virtual machines..
> The image still has to be sent (however compressed or optimized)
..the image can be highly optimized.
> and the client has to show it on screen. So you need a video
> driver, a mouse driver, knowledge of the monitor, mouse, their
> resolutions and protocols...
Correct. This would be in a SPICE payload.
> I don't think there's such a thing in coreboot or libpayload.
Some of it is in libpayload.
> In fact I know nothing about virtualization, but my notion is that
> with vitualization you get more than one OS in a physical machine,
Correct. This is a remote machine.
> I don't see how you can get 0 OSes.
The local machine with coreboot might not need an OS to talk SPICE,
with the remote machine where the VMs are running.
> With coreboot you can certainly avoid loading an OS, but then the
> payload will have to do all the useful functionality.
Also correct, but maybe it isn't too bad!
//Peter
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