[coreboot] BadBIOS Thoughts

[Oliver Schinagl]

On 20-11-13 07:11, mrnuke wrote:
> On 11/18/2013 08:36 AM, Patrick Georgi wrote:
>> For someone trying to pull this off, a good first step might be to
>> inquire with vendors if they have long term supported AMD models, what
>> "long term" means for them, and how to identify these models.
>> Then, when the next generation AMD hardware comes out (eg. sometimes
>> early 2014), pick one of those, do the port, put up a sales page.
>>
>> I'm massively oversimplifying things here, but this seems to be more
>> realistic than trying to get ODMs on board (unless you have money to
>> burn - enough for a run of devices).
>>
> Guys! Stop this nonsense. It didn't work in the past, it doesn't work
> now, and it won't work in the future. Once you buy that laptop,
> Phoenix/AMI/etc gets their money, Microsoft gets their money, Norton
> gets their money... you get the point. Manufacturers are enthralled to
> see their sales go up, and they love the fact that they can end their
> warranty obligations. What message did we just send?
What happened to decline the EULA and demand your money back? Nobody 
does that anymore?
>
> "Don't worry 'bout what I care, just put the dang system on the market."
> All that is besides the fact that whoever buys such a system will pay
> almost twice what the system is worth, since the software fees are still
> included. The method you guys are discussing is not only plain stupid,
> it's also dangerous. It's dangerous for coreboot in that it undermines
> the power of voting with the wallet, and most definitely eliminates any
> incentive to consider coreboot as a factory default.
>
> The next best thing, crowdfunding is also out of the picture as long as
> a coreboot non-profit does not exist.
>
> The best we have, short of convincing a manufacturer to start
> corebootizing, is to petition Google to spit out a midrange chromebook
> with AMD undergarments. It's a long shot. Otherwise, I'm certain many of
> you will find existing chromebooks to outperform the ancient T60.
>
> Alex
>
> -- Sent from my Pavilion Chromebook running linux
>