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This page contains a series of potential candidates for a new Long-Term SUpport laptop.
This page contains a series of potential candidates for a new Long-Term SUpport laptop.


* Requirements:
== Requirements: ==
** RYF-certifiable: all blobs can be replaced with reasonable effort
 
** Sturdy: Won't come apart in the first years of use
=== RYF-certifiable ===
** Long shelf-life: Expected to be manufactured in large quantities, sold for at least 2 yrs
 
** Cool factor: Must be attractive enough as a piece of hardware to attract users
All blobs can be replaced with reasonable effort. The project does not have to start out RYF, but it must be possible to replace RYF-offending components (blobs) in a reasonable timeframe. For example, a VGA BIOS could be replaced with native init, whereas ME firmware cannot. All Intel-based systems are disqualified on this basis.
 
=== Sturdy ===
 
Won't come apart in the first years of use. It must be built to last.
 
=== Long shelf-life ===
 
Expected to be manufactured in large quantities, sold for at least 2 years. The idea is that there should be a large number of these systems around for years to come.
=== Cool factor ===
 
Must be attractive enough as a piece of hardware to attract users. It must be more than just a novelty item, and should serve reasoably well as a day-to-day laptop.


== 15.6" screen candidates ==
== 15.6" screen candidates ==
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|- bgcolor="#dddddd"
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| Beffy
| Beefy
| A10-5750M  
| A10-5750M  
| 4 x 2.5
| 4 x 2.5
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=== HP ProBook 455 G1 ===
{| border="0" style="font-size: smaller"
|- bgcolor="#6699ff"
! align="left" | Beefiness
! align="left" | CPU
! align="left" | cpufreq
! align="left" | MSRP
! align="left" | NRBSPU
|- bgcolor="#dddddd"
| Bacony
| A8-5550M 
| 4 x 2.1
| $ 600
| 0.84
|- bgcolor="#dddddd"
| Grinded
| A6-5350M
| 2 x 2.9
| $ 540
| 0.58
|- bgcolor="#dddddd"
| Vegetarian
| A4-5150M
| 2 x 2.7
| $ 500
| 0.54
|-
|}
=== HP 255 G2 ===
{| border="0" style="font-size: smaller"
|- bgcolor="#6699ff"
! align="left" | Beefiness
! align="left" | CPU
! align="left" | cpufreq
! align="left" | MSRP
! align="left" | NRBSPU
|- bgcolor="#dddddd"
| Grinded
| A6-5200
| 4 x 2.0
| $ 590
| 0.80
|- bgcolor="#dddddd"
| Vegetarian
| A4-5000
| 4 x 1.5
| $ 500
| 0.60
|-
|}
== 14.0" screen candidates ==
=== HP ProBook 645 G1 ===
{| border="0" style="font-size: smaller"
|- bgcolor="#6699ff"
! align="left" | Beefiness
! align="left" | CPU
! align="left" | cpufreq
! align="left" | MSRP
! align="left" | NRBSPU
|- bgcolor="#dddddd"
| Beefy
| A10-5750M
| 4 x 2.5
| $ 1070
| 1.0
|- bgcolor="#dddddd"
| Bacony
| A8-5550M 
| 4 x 2.1
| $ 800
| 0.84
|- bgcolor="#dddddd"
| Vegetarian
| A4-5150M
| 2 x 2.7
| $ 640
| 0.54
|-
|}
== 13.3" screen candidates ==
=== Samsung Chromebook 2 ===
{| border="0" style="font-size: smaller"
|- bgcolor="#6699ff"
! align="left" | Beefiness
! align="left" | CPU
! align="left" | cpufreq
! align="left" | MSRP
! align="left" | NRBSPU
|- bgcolor="#dddddd"
| Vegetarian
| Exynos
| 8 x ??
| $ ???
| ??
|-
|}
== 11.6" screen candidates ==
=== HP 215 G1  ===
{| border="0" style="font-size: smaller"
|- bgcolor="#6699ff"
! align="left" | Beefiness
! align="left" | CPU
! align="left" | cpufreq
! align="left" | MSRP
! align="left" | NRBSPU
|- bgcolor="#dddddd"
| Grinded
| A6-1450
| 4 x 1.4
| $ 470
| 0.56
|- bgcolor="#dddddd"
| Vegetarian
| A4-1250
| 4 x 1.0
| $ 400
| 0.40
|-
|}
=== HP Chromebook 11  ===
{| border="0" style="font-size: smaller"
|- bgcolor="#6699ff"
! align="left" | Beefiness
! align="left" | CPU
! align="left" | cpufreq
! align="left" | MSRP
! align="left" | NRBSPU
|- bgcolor="#dddddd"
| Vegetarian
| ARM!!!
| ??
| $ 300
| ??
|-
|}
== Rating system ==
Beefiness:
* Beefy: Expected to have great performance and responsiveness
* Bacony: Expected to have reasonable performance
* Grinded: Expected to be usable; possibly outperforms chromebooks
* Vegetarian: Expected to be have chromebook-like performance.


(*) NRBSPU is a Normalized Relative BS Performance Unit, which shall be taken to represent a non-scientific relative performance number between CPUs. It's most likely worthless.
(*) NRBSPU is a Normalized Relative BS Performance Unit, which shall be taken to represent a non-scientific relative performance number between CPUs. It's most likely worthless.
== Possible issues ==
=== Exynos CPUs ===
These CPUs use a PowerVR graphics core. The specification is closed and there are currently no free drivers for the graphics part.
=== AMD APUs ===
The integrated graphics processors in these APUs require non-free microcode to work. It is unclear if the display can function without such microcode.

Latest revision as of 23:54, 25 March 2014

This page contains a series of potential candidates for a new Long-Term SUpport laptop.

Requirements:

RYF-certifiable

All blobs can be replaced with reasonable effort. The project does not have to start out RYF, but it must be possible to replace RYF-offending components (blobs) in a reasonable timeframe. For example, a VGA BIOS could be replaced with native init, whereas ME firmware cannot. All Intel-based systems are disqualified on this basis.

Sturdy

Won't come apart in the first years of use. It must be built to last.

Long shelf-life

Expected to be manufactured in large quantities, sold for at least 2 years. The idea is that there should be a large number of these systems around for years to come.

Cool factor

Must be attractive enough as a piece of hardware to attract users. It must be more than just a novelty item, and should serve reasoably well as a day-to-day laptop.

15.6" screen candidates

HP Probook 655 G1

Beefiness CPU cpufreq MSRP NRBSPU
Beefy A10-5750M 4 x 2.5 $ 1080 1.0
Bacony A8-5550M 4 x 2.1 $ 810 0.84
Vegetarian A4-5150M 2 x 2.7 $ 650 0.54

HP ProBook 455 G1

Beefiness CPU cpufreq MSRP NRBSPU
Bacony A8-5550M 4 x 2.1 $ 600 0.84
Grinded A6-5350M 2 x 2.9 $ 540 0.58
Vegetarian A4-5150M 2 x 2.7 $ 500 0.54

HP 255 G2

Beefiness CPU cpufreq MSRP NRBSPU
Grinded A6-5200 4 x 2.0 $ 590 0.80
Vegetarian A4-5000 4 x 1.5 $ 500 0.60

14.0" screen candidates

HP ProBook 645 G1

Beefiness CPU cpufreq MSRP NRBSPU
Beefy A10-5750M 4 x 2.5 $ 1070 1.0
Bacony A8-5550M 4 x 2.1 $ 800 0.84
Vegetarian A4-5150M 2 x 2.7 $ 640 0.54

13.3" screen candidates

Samsung Chromebook 2

Beefiness CPU cpufreq MSRP NRBSPU
Vegetarian Exynos 8 x ?? $ ??? ??

11.6" screen candidates

HP 215 G1

Beefiness CPU cpufreq MSRP NRBSPU
Grinded A6-1450 4 x 1.4 $ 470 0.56
Vegetarian A4-1250 4 x 1.0 $ 400 0.40

HP Chromebook 11

Beefiness CPU cpufreq MSRP NRBSPU
Vegetarian ARM!!! ?? $ 300 ??

Rating system

Beefiness:

  • Beefy: Expected to have great performance and responsiveness
  • Bacony: Expected to have reasonable performance
  • Grinded: Expected to be usable; possibly outperforms chromebooks
  • Vegetarian: Expected to be have chromebook-like performance.

(*) NRBSPU is a Normalized Relative BS Performance Unit, which shall be taken to represent a non-scientific relative performance number between CPUs. It's most likely worthless.

Possible issues

Exynos CPUs

These CPUs use a PowerVR graphics core. The specification is closed and there are currently no free drivers for the graphics part.

AMD APUs

The integrated graphics processors in these APUs require non-free microcode to work. It is unclear if the display can function without such microcode.

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